Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

embrionamento

English translation:

embryonation

Added to glossary by Sonny Tissot
Mar 4, 2010 12:53
14 yrs ago
Portuguese term

embrionamento

Portuguese to English Science Science (general) embryo
Context:

A infecção por Ascaris lumbricoides decorre da ingestão de ovos embrionados deste parasita, o que justifica a pesquisa de substâncias que tenham efeito deletério sobre estes ovos. Nosso objetivo foi estudar a ação de 16 produtos detergentes e desinfetantes, de uso doméstico e laboratorial, sobre a embriogênese deste helminto. Crianças portadoras desta infecção foram tratadas com levamisol e os vermes fêmeas expelidos foram recolhidos e dissecados, para obtenção dos ovos intra-uterinos. Os ovos foram postos em contato com os produtos em diversas diluições e tempos, lavados e incubados a 28ºC, por 20 dias, para teste da viabilidade e determinação da porcentagem de embrionamento

http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0...

Thank you,

Discussion

Sonny Tissot (asker) Mar 9, 2010:
Reply to Christina Christina, thank you again for your input. I'm sure it is a neologism and I think we have to be careful, but I'm going to stick to my decision, because many people have agreed with Richard and fvasconcellos. I had seen embryonation before posting my question on proz, but I wasn't sure if it would be ok to use it. I used the word in my translation, but I also warned the client that I was using it. Now, it is up to people using proz's glossary to decide. Thank you again.
Christina Paiva Mar 9, 2010:
Embryonation & Embrionamento in Dictionaries F. , Richard and Tissot

My concern over this term is that I believe it was literally translated from the book cited by F. that was written by Smyth & McManus (Australian researchers).

This term embrionamento linked consistently to the same author is unusual, to say the least. In such cases, I usually rely on dictionaries :) Therefore:

1. Houaiss: you will find embrionado, along with a number of embryo-derived terms in PT, but not embrionamento

2. Random House: embryonation/embryonated > not listed

3. Merriam Webster's Medical Dictionary:

- embryonate/embryonated/embryonating (verb) - of an egg or a zygote: to produce or differentiate into an embryo
- embryonated (adjective) - having an embryo

So, my point is that translators are responsible for the maintenance of their native language, and should be very careful with neologisms. I know by experience, I used to work with plant cells, somatic embryogenesis, etc.. and was not aware that our literal translations of some terms could affect our language. The term above is a good example...
Christina... I'm quite sure the word "embrionamento" wasn't coined by C.L. Massara—it occurs in Spanish as well. Run a Google search for "embrionamento -massara" and I'm sure you'll find it in reputable .edu and .br sites.

Proposed translations

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embryonation

Note from asker:
Thank you, Richard!
Peer comment(s):

agree liz askew
44 mins
Cheers :)
agree Filippe Vasconcellos de Freitas Guimarães : Got the jump on me... :)
46 mins
Yes, by a 'nose' :)
agree Henrique Serra
2 hrs
Cheers, Henrique :)
agree Mary Palmer
4 hrs
Cheers, Mary :)
disagree Christina Paiva : Sorry ... This word is a creation of CL Massara (see google 1 of 10).. Not a PT nor an En term...
11 hrs
Christina, your point doesn't really make sense. If the word is 'invented' in Portuguese then the 'invented' English equivalent is just as valid or invalid and equally translatable. I'd be inclined to leave the original Portuguese choice as it is.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you everyone. Decision based on fvasconcellos references, mainly the books in English"
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embryo formation

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Note from asker:
Thank you, Marlene!
Peer comment(s):

agree Christina Paiva
11 hrs
Grata!
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embryonation

Note from asker:
Muito obrigado!
Peer comment(s):

agree Muriel Vasconcellos : Your cites are in original English! It takes a little longer to provide an adequately supported answer.
11 hrs
Thank you, Muriel! Yes they are, boosts credibility :)
disagree Christina Paiva : Sorry F... There's no such word in PT dictionaries (nor in my admittedly old parasitology books). Most of the citations in google (PT/BR) are from public health org. publications - and some use their own lingo...
12 hrs
Hi Christina, I actually remember this word from my high school biology textbooks so I'm sure it exists! There are plenty of academic references in SciELO as well. Have you checked Houaiss?
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