Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Inverse Time Neutral Overcurrent + step-up transformer neutral CTs

Polish translation:

zabezpieczenie nadprądowe przewodu neutralnego o charakterystyce zależnej

Added to glossary by Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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English term

Inverse Time Neutral Overcurrent + step-up transformer neutral CTs

English to Polish Tech/Engineering Energy / Power Generation Instruction book
Here is the context:

Instruction Book
51N "Inverse Time Neutral Overcurrent"
The Inverse Time Neutral Overcurrent function (51N) provides protection against ground faults.
Since no zero sequence or ground current is usually present during normal operation, this function can be set for greater sensitivity than the phase overcurrent protection.
If the 51N and 50N functions are not used at the generator neutral, they can be used to detect system ground faults by being energized by "the step-up transformer neutral CTs".
Ranges and increments are presented in Figure 2-37.

Thank you in advance,

Anna
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Jun 15, 2015 18:38: Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Created KOG entry

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Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Jun 12, 2015:
Please submit the second question separately.

Proposed translations

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zabezpieczenie nadprądowe przewodu zerowego działające z odwrotną zwłoką czasową

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Note added at 35 mins (2015-06-12 14:20:17 GMT)
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There is some controversy about Inverse time translation into Polish. Another alternative is
zabezpieczenie nadprądowe przewodu zerowego o charakterystyce zależnej

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Note added at 12 hrs (2015-06-13 02:27:43 GMT)
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neutral overcurrent protection protect the neutral conductor


If the neutral conductor is correctly sized (including harmonics), no specific protection of the neutral conductor is required because it is protected by the phase protection. However, in practice, if the c.s.a. of the neutral conductor is lower than the phase c.s.a, a neutral overload protection must be installed.
If the c.s.a. of the neutral conductor is lower than the c.s.a. of the phase conductor, the neutral conductor must be protected against short-circuit.

If the c.s.a. of the neutral conductor is equal or greater than the c.s.a. of the phase conductor, no specific protection of the neutral conductor is required because it is protected by the phase protection.
http://electrical-engineering-portal.com/sizing-and-protecti...
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The neutral overcurrent protection is not necessary:

If the neutral conductor is protected against short-circuits by a device placed upstream, or,
If the circuit is protected by a RCD which sensitivity is less than 15% of the neutral admissible current.
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Such neutral conductor overheating can be caused by inexpensive power ... and trip upon detection of selected neutral overcurrent conditions.
http://www.google.com/patents/US5483408
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grounded neutral conductor shall have overcurrent protection in each conductor. In such cases, the grounded neutral overcurrent device shall comply
https://books.google.com/books?id=K3U7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA678&lpg=...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2015-06-13 02:42:30 GMT)
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Other sources:
zabezpieczeń nadprądowe zwłoczne z charakterystykączasową niezależną
http://212.180.246.127/pdf-files/RIT-433A_kk.pdf

Na próżno szczegółowo wyjaśniałem [2], że angielskie „inverse-time-lag
protective device” znaczy „zabezpieczenia o charakterystyce zależnej”

http://www.redinpe.com/attachments/normalizacja/normalizacja...

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In conclusion, the best translation would be
zabezpieczenie nadprądowe przewodu neutralnego o charakterystyce zależnej
See
Kierunkowe zabezpieczenie nadprądowe przewodu neutralnego https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Note from asker:
I created separated question for step-up. Inverse time neutral overcurrent - how to say it in Polish? Thank you
Thank you for your answer.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Arrakis : Za zerowego. Reszta też błędna.
20 mins
Wkrótce wszystko będzie uzasadnione. Zamieniłbym zerowy na neutralny.
agree mike23 : Ostatnia wersja jest z pewnością dobra
1 day 16 hrs
Dziękuję Michale. Też myślę, że ostatnia wersja na dole mojego okienka jest poprawna.
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43 mins

zabezpieczenie nadprądowe zależne punktu neutralnego

IMHO.
Zamiast punkt neutralny można punkt połączenia.
Note from asker:
Thank you for your answer.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_polish/energy_power_generation/5873224-inverse_time_neutral_overcurrent_%2B_step_up_transformer_neutral_cts.html
Peer comment(s):

disagree Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. : Until you substantiate your answers with English and Polish sources, my opinion is "disagree." //There is an opportunity here to educate for the benefit of all.///My sources point to the protection of the neutral conductor.
12 mins
Komentarz niemerytoryczny, w którym komentujący podkreśla, że się nie zna, ale ma swoją opinię. Po przewodzie zerowym, to już nic dodawać nie trzeba.
agree mike23
1 day 16 hrs
Dziękuję :)
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