Glossary entry

anglais term or phrase:

\\\"secular litanies\\\"

français translation:

litanies séculaires

Added to glossary by Tarik KHACHIAA
Sep 28, 2016 21:00
7 yrs ago
anglais term

\"secular litanies\"

anglais vers français Art / Littérature Poésie et littérature
"It might have been a car door or the muezzin’s call, yet already the air was alive with the secular litanies of the meeting place two hundred yards away."

Discussion

Philippe Lascourrèges Oct 2, 2016:
Car door A tourist joke !!
the call to prayer is quite strident and some visitors use to say that it sounds like the cry of pain of a person who would have stuck up his finger in a car door
Philippe Lascourrèges Oct 2, 2016:
Meeting place the meeting place may be the place where the faithful are gathering at the call of the muezzin
Catharine Cellier-Smart Sep 29, 2016:
More context is needed! Do you know what the 'meeting place' refers to?

Proposed translations

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litanies séculaires

Qui a ou qui dure beaucoup d'années.

Contexte ? cela ressemble à l'appel à la prière...
litanie ancienne, qui existe depuis très longtemps; et qui, par sa répétitivité, nous est devenue familière....
Peer comment(s):

agree JohnMcDove
7 heures
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+6
3 minutes

Litanies profanes

Profane par opposition à sacrée ou religieuse.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alain Boulé
12 minutes
Merci
neutral HERBET Abel : Pourquoi profanes ???
14 minutes
On parle par exemple de musique profane par opposition à la musique religieuse ou sacrée.
agree FX Fraipont (X)
7 heures
Merci
agree oliviervs : La litanie est une prière collective d'intercession. Son sens figuré n'en retient que l'aspect répétitif et monocorde, voire ennuyeux. La "litanie profane" évoque pour moi un brouhaha, une publicité (?), une ritournelle monotone, plaintive et futile.
12 heures
Merci
agree Annie Rigler
12 heures
Merci
agree Didier Fourcot : Pour rester plus proche de l'anglais on peut dire aussi "séculières" http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/séculier
15 heures
Merci
agree katsy
17 heures
Merci
neutral JohnMcDove : A "litany" however, is a religious prayer... Context is of the essence, but it sounds to me like the sound of the muezzin, repeated over and over... (?)
23 heures
I had some doubts because of he muezzin's call as well but maybe (with the car door) they are two extremes of the litanies, it would help to know what this meeting place is.
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2 heures
anglais term (edited): \\\"secular litanies\\\"

litanies d'autrefois

age-old litanies
Secular in the sense of very old.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-09-28 23:50:18 GMT)
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Or better yet, "litanies ancestrales", "litanies très anciennes", "litanies séculaires", "très anciennes litanies"...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Catharine Cellier-Smart : Not convinced 'old' is the meaning here
5 heures
No it is not "old" but "age-old", "ancestral", "from old". Without further context it is just a matter of guessing.
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