Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Denkmalsturz

English answer:

cultural disinheriting/disinheritance

Added to glossary by British Diana
Jul 5, 2011 15:18
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English term

MOnument(al) protection

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Hi,

is "monumental protection" really used in English? It's supposed to mean "Cultural heritage management", or "Denkmalschutz" in German, but what I find on Google makes me suspect this is a Germanism and not really English.

I'm actually trying to translate a pun, "Denkmalsturz", that would work well, I could just swap "protection" for "destruction", but the word needs to be really idiomatic and well used for that to work.
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Jul 5, 2011 16:49: AllegroTrans changed "Language pair" from "German to English" to "English to German"

Jul 5, 2011 16:49: AllegroTrans changed "Language pair" from "English to German" to "English"

Jul 5, 2011 18:21: Anja C. changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

Jul 19, 2011 07:02: British Diana Created KOG entry

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Discussion

oa_xxx (X) Jul 8, 2011:
Denkmalsturz isnt a pun as such - unless it is in your context - its used quite normally, eg, when monuments are deliberately knocked down, removed, demolished at the end of a dictatorship, change in ideology/politics, the end of an era etc - eg. Saddam's statue in Iraq, Hitler monuments etc.
http://jes.sagepub.com/content/28/1/202.extract
'''Denkmalsturz''' bezeichnet die öffentliche Beseitigung von Herrscherbildern.
Has to be longer in EN: preserving/destroying monuments etc.
The protection, destruction of monuments.
The preservation, demolition of monuments (the rise and fall of monuments ;-)
mill2 Jul 6, 2011:
agree with Andrew !
Horst Huber (X) Jul 5, 2011:
In this area the term is "preservation", and we, it seems, are looking for an antonym. The preservation publications go for all euphemisms for "destruction" they can find.
Armorel Young Jul 5, 2011:
You haven't really given any context, but if you want a pun is there any mileage in "monumental disaster"?
Lancashireman Jul 5, 2011:
monumental protection = protection on a monumental scale
You need to post this Q as 'Denkmalsturz' and express your misgivings as a supplementary note.
One possible approach: Cultural heritage (mis)management

Responses

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cultural disinheriting/disinheritance

Just an idea
Peer comment(s):

agree Lancashireman : 'cultural disinheritance' - good idea. This author has even coined the term 'disheritage' http://www.univie.ac.at/Very-Vienna/magazin/artikel/5/5.html
8 mins
A good idea, too, but the Asker thinks it should be idiomatic and well-used...
agree Phong Le
1 day 22 hrs
Thanks, Phong!
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16 hrs

destruction of cultural monuments

just another suggestion as the opposite of "Protection of cultural monuments or heritage", which is one common way to refer to it
Peer comment(s):

agree Thuy-PTT (X)
1 day 23 hrs
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