Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

in sixty

English answer:

sixty shots/strokes

Added to glossary by updownK
Dec 30, 2015 23:37
8 yrs ago
English term

in sixty

English Other Sports / Fitness / Recreation golf
"Father is a great golfer, I mean really. He's fifty-four years old and he plays the Onwentsia course IN SIXTY, or maybe it's A HUNDRED AND SIXTY. Which would be right? He wanted me to take it up and begged and begged till finally one day I went out and played nine holes with him."

"My father is the greatest golf fan in the world; I mean I really believe he is, without exception. He never plays less than four times a week and he's a fine player, I mean for a man his age. He's fifty-four years old and he goes around Onwentsia in A HUNDRED AND TWENTY. Can that be right?"

The two paragraph is excerpted from a story titled Dinner by Ring Lardner. Link: http://www.aaoldbooks.com/en-uk-us/Old_Book_1924/book_p_143....
It's about golf, which I'm not familiar with. I don't know what these numbers, 60, 160 and 120, stand for? Do they mean Strokes?
The girl is a simple-minded one mocked by the writer. Obviously she herself is not sure about these numbers.

Thank you!

Discussion

updownK (asker) Jan 1, 2016:
@Charles Davis @Tony M I see. Thank you!
Charles Davis Dec 31, 2015:
@Tony A round of 60 would be phenomenally good. Anything in the low sixties is exceptional. Most courses have a par for the round of about 70-72, so 60 would be a round of some 10-12 under par, birdying more than half the holes with no bogies. Not unprecedented, but very rare!

But of course that's not to say it's not the meaning, since the speaker doesn't have a very firm grasp of the details.
Tony M Dec 30, 2015:
@ Asker Logically, yes, the way it is expressed suggests the number of strokes to complete the 18 holes of the golf course. So 60 would be an average of just over 3 strokes per hole — I'm not a golfer, but that sounds fairly OK to me.

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sixty shots/strikes

the number of strikes/shots it takes to get around the course (get the ball into all the holes)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf

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OOPS typo! I actually meant to write strOkes (not strikes)

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60 is considered an excellent score by the way

http://golf.about.com/od/progolftours/qt/lowest18score.htm

https://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/sports-golf.htm
http://www.primermagazine.com/2010/field-manual/know-it-all-...

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Glad to have helped and a Happy New Year!
Peer comment(s):

agree Helena Chavarria : I see they're also called 'strokes'.
3 mins
Thanks Helena, Yes, I actually meant to write strokes!
agree philgoddard
25 mins
Many thanks:-)
neutral airmailrpl : why not delete this one and enter a new one...a second answer was necessary because the first one was not correct.
2 hrs
because it really isn't necessary to do so that's why, nor was a second answer necessary//it had been corrected and it's easy to change the heading for a glossary entry.
agree B D Finch : You were first by nearly an hour and you did correct "strikes" to "strokes" at 14 mins. Plus, "shots" is OK too.
17 hrs
Many thanks:-) Yes, indeed I did correct it and "shots" also used, as is clear from links I posted.
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in 60 Strokes

in sixty => in 60 Strokes

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Par (score) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par_(score)
Wikipedia
In golf, par is the pre-determined number of strokes that a scratch (or 0 handicap) golfer should require to complete a hole, a round (the sum of the pars of the ...

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Pars are the central component of stroke play, the most common kind of play in professional golf tournaments.

The length of each hole from the tee placement to the pin determines par values for each hole primarily but not exclusively. Almost invariably, holes are assigned par values between three and five strokes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par_(score)

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Stroke play - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_play
Wikipedia
Stroke play, also known as medal play, is a scoring system in the sport of golf. It involves counting the total number of strokes taken on each hole during a given ...
‎Scoring - ‎Cut - ‎See also - ‎References

Golf stroke - definition of golf stroke by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/golf stroke
Noun 1. golf stroke - the act of swinging a golf club at a golf ball and hitting it golf ... two strokes to get out of the bunker"; "a good shot requires good balance and ...
Note from asker:
I learned a lot. Happy new year!
Peer comment(s):

agree Jack Doughty
6 hrs
thank you
agree Armorel Young : yes, but "strokes" doesn't need to be capitalised
8 hrs
thank you - did that to emphasize that "shots/strikes" are not the correct terms
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : I made it clear I meant "strokes" (NO CAPITAL) and "shots" is used in golf http://golf.about.com/od/progolftours/qt/lowest18score.htm //stroke=shot played , no matter what type of shot it is. Of course shot is used!
10 hrs
ask how many golfers use "shots" instead of "strokes"
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Reference comments

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Reference:

I don't play golf either but this link explains the scoring system quite well.

An Adult Beginner

In his book "Good Golf Made Easy," Tony Dear makes the bold statement that an individual in good physical condition, with at least some natural golf ability and a willingness to apply himself, should be able to shoot a score below 100 within a few weeks. But according to NGF surveys, 45 percent of all golfers average more than 100 strokes per round. So shooting a score of 108, or 2 over par per hole, could still be considered a good score for a beginner, given that he would be scoring better than 21 percent of all golfers, according to the NGF.

Steady Progress

The true measure of what a good score is for a beginning player should be whether his average score per round is steadily going down. Comparing his score to the par for the course, usually 72 strokes, can discourage him. For many beginners, a more reasonable goal is to try to shoot "even 5s" on the course -- in other words, shoot around 90 for the round, or 1 over par on each hole. If he currently is shooting 108 or so, 6 strokes per hole on average, reaching his goal would require lowering his score just one stroke per hole.

Factors that Affect a Golfer's Potential

The path to becoming a proficient golfer can be shortened for a beginner if he devotes enough time to taking lessons and plays frequently enough to gain confidence in his swing. A beginner whose busy schedule only allows for a trip to the links once a month must set modest goals. If his average score is 120 at the beginning of the golf season, averaging 5 strokes lower by the end of the season could be considered achieving a good score. A beginning golfer must also be realistic about his physical capabilities. Playing good golf requires a certain amount of muscle tone, strength and stamina. A beginner in overall excellent physical shape could set a goal of scoring below 90 strokes within his first year of play. Someone out of shape would need to do fitness training along with golf training. When he first takes up golf, his theoretical good score would be higher than that of his more athletic counterpart.

http://golftips.golfsmith.com/good-golf-score-beginner-20087...
Note from asker:
Thank you. Happy new year:)
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Yvonne Gallagher : yes, I've played pitch and putt a few times and watch pro golf sometimes but not an expert!
7 mins
I used to play pitch and putt with a friend and her golf-loving parents about 40 years ago!
agree Tony M
7 hrs
Thanks, Tony. Happy New Year!
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