Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Chorleywood Process

English answer:

The Chorleywood bread process

Added to glossary by Yorkshireman
Dec 4, 2014 11:36
9 yrs ago
English term

Chorleywood Process

English Other Retail Chorleywood Process
Hi,
Actually I don't know the denotative meaning and also the connotative meaning , why did the author mention this company her.Thanks in advance and all answers are welcome/


In 1770 Edward Naime, an English Engineer, made a very lucky mistake in his writing, he inadvertently picked up some fragments of rubber that happened to be lying around, and thereby invented the eraser. I am no so sure that the story is true. Who keeps rubber in the bread bin? No one. Unless, of course, their bread has been made by the Chorleywood Process.
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Discussion

Yorkshireman Dec 4, 2014:
How about irony rather than humour? If the breadcrumbs had been from today's typically English sliced bread, he would probably never have noticed the difference.

Chorleywood seems to make the whole thing confusing and, in my opinion, is not really necessary for the Chinese reader - reference to the poor quality of typical English bread would be easier to understand and find amusing
sunny20101211 (asker) Dec 4, 2014:
Thanks very much! i don't know whether this joke can still be a joke in Chinese, but I will try to make it funny
Yorkshireman Dec 4, 2014:
The inventor of the rubber (eraser) By the way, his name was Edward Nairne not Naime
Yorkshireman Dec 4, 2014:
Rubber in the sense of eraser A "rubber" is the colloquial term for an eraser in the UK.

This is where we find the connection between pieces of rubber, breadbins, bread and breadcrumbs:
"One of the earliest references to rubber in Europe appears to be in 1770, when Edward Nairne was selling cubes of natural rubber at his shop at 20 Cornhill. The cubes, meant to be erasers, sold for the astonishingly high price of 3 shillings per half-inch cube. Nairne is credited with creating the first rubber eraser. Prior to using rubber, breadcrumbs were used as erasers. Nairne says he inadvertently picked up a piece of rubber instead of breadcrumbs, discovered its erasing properties, and began selling rubber erasers."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Nairne

I consider it essential to mention this connection between bread and rubber used as erasers, otherwise, readers will miss the point entirely.

If you add something like my suggestion after this, readers will understand the "joke"
sunny20101211 (asker) Dec 4, 2014:
Hi, I agree with Yorkshireman.
And BD, yeah, substitution is a good way. However, here, according to the context, it refers to the "invention" of rubber. So maybe saying rubber here directly is better.
Yorkshireman Dec 4, 2014:
For translation I think it would be better if the English were something more like this:

Actually, today he could have looked in his breadbin, as many people joke that bread baked by the Chorleywood process is more like rubber than bread.
B D Finch Dec 4, 2014:
No In translating it into Chinese, you need to bear in mind that this is a little joke and avoid turning it into something lumbering. Try substituting some sort of joke about Chinese food that Chinese people would joke about as being rubbery (if there is one - badly cooked squid perhaps?).
sunny20101211 (asker) Dec 4, 2014:
So if I translated it into Chinese, can I say that' the bread may be produced through Chorelywood process because this rapid bread making process can make bread taste like rubber."
Yorkshireman Dec 4, 2014:
Rubbery bread Famous or, perhaps, infamous.

The process is not named after a company, it is an industrial baking method used by many bakeries in the UK and other countries.

It originated in Chorleywood, a small town/village in the county of Hertfordshire, which is the home of an establishment called the British Baking Industries Research Association.
sunny20101211 (asker) Dec 4, 2014:
and does it mean that this company is famous for making ' rubbery bread'?
sunny20101211 (asker) Dec 4, 2014:
Thanks for answering my question. The thing is that I am not know why 'chorleywood process' is specifically pointed out here not other companies

Responses

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The Chorleywood bread process

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process

I'm sure this tells you almost everything about it.

The joke with the pieces of rubber in the breadbin refers to the kind of bread made with this process. Slices of bread made by this process (white toast or sandwich bread) are generally considered to be rather rubbery in texture.

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Finished too soon:

...rather rubbery in texture and consistency.

Sad and soggy would be my description of it.

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I must admit that I have got on very well without this excuse for bread in the 30 years I have been in Germany :-)

Nevertheless, the general opinion here that all UK bread is like this should be corrected. There are some very good bakers back home (speaking for Yorkshire!).
Peer comment(s):

agree Yvonne Gallagher : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8572423/Does-sliced-... about to say much the same.//I'm voting this Pro. It's taken Asker sooo long to get the joke (has he?)though you've done great job of explaining. Easy for natives
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THX
agree Shera Lyn Parpia
2 mins
THX2U2
agree B D Finch : You got there first.
10 mins
Hi BD, I'll let you in first next time around :-)
agree AllegroTrans : bah gum....emmm... rubber
1 hr
:-) At school, we used to call them bungies
agree P.L.F. Persio
4 hrs
Many thanks
agree Tamas Elek
1 day 10 hrs
Thanks, Tamas
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bread like rubber

They are poking fun and saying that bread made wih this process is like rubber. It is a rapid industrial process to make bread.

The high degree of mechanical mixing involves produces a texture that some people liken to rubber.

this explains what the Chorleywood bread making process is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process

BBC News - Chorleywood: The bread that changed Britain
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-13670278
Jun 7, 2011 - ... in France. But is the long life, plastic wrapped, sandwich loaf that was first created in Chorleywood a design classic or a crime against bread?
Peer comment(s):

agree P.L.F. Persio : yes, "real" bread is something completely different.
4 hrs
But many people in the UK still don't know it :)
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Chorleywood process

I'm sure this can be found on Google quite easily. It's the nasty industrial bread-making process that gave us Mother's Pride and Wonderloaf. The writer is saying that bread made by the Chorleywood process is like rubber, which could account for rubber being found in the bread bin.

Chorleywood is the place where the factory was located that first used this way of making pseudo-bread.

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Three answers in two minutes probably testifies to how much some of us loathe the horrid excuse-for-bread we were brought up on. Could even account for us now living in countries where good bread is just normal.
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