Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

at the date of termination

English answer:

as at = by / up to and including (before and on)

Added to glossary by Deborah do Carmo
Apr 30, 2005 11:50
19 yrs ago
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English term

at the date of termination

English Law/Patents Law (general)
Reseller may continue to exercise its rights for a maximum period of 1 month after termination, for the purposes of finalising sales to End Users to whom Reseller had submitted a proposal at the date of termination.

It is before the date of termination, right?

Responses

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by the date of termination (before and on)

up to and including

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Note added at 5 mins (2005-04-30 11:55:43 GMT)
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it should read \"as at\" if they insist on using at
Peer comment(s):

agree Krisztina Lelik
4 mins
thanks, this is standard legalese but one needs to get used to it
agree Mihaela Brooks : The pleasure is mine...excellent !!
29 mins
thanks fellow legal eagle!
agree Derek Gill Franßen : :-) // There's no point in arguing if it's right. ;-) // I was thinking exactly the same thing. :-)
1 hr
all the lawyers in one camp I see ..;-))// tell that to some legal colleagues who charge by the hour regardless (haha), thanks keep well!
agree Shane London
1 hr
thanks Shane
agree Alejandra Hozikian
2 hrs
thanks
agree Alp Berker
13 hrs
thanks Alp!
agree Alfa Trans (X)
22 hrs
thanks!
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4 mins

before

FUTURE:
"Reseller may continue to exercise its rights for a maximum period of 1 month after termination"

PAST OR PRESENT:
"for the purposes of finalising sales to End Users to whom Reseller had submitted a proposal at the date of termination."

Might have been before or during, but not after. You're right. Good luck!

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5 mins

before termination

Yes, before the date of termination. Rephrasing: ...to whom Reseller had _already_ submitted a proposal at the date of termination (i.e. when that day arrived, he had already submitted the proposal).
Peer comment(s):

neutral Deborah do Carmo : not just before, it includes the date of termination as well - the meaning is "as at" or "by" - up to and including//as a lawyer I've seen parties who were told to meet deadlines or else work flat out till the end to meet that target until the axe fell.
6 mins
Yes, I agree. (Although I don't find it very likely that sb submit a proposal on the date of termination of a contract. But that's not relevant here.)
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6 mins

I think you're right

That's the only explanation that makes sense to me - End Users who had been given proprosals before the termination was announced. "End users who at the date of termination were in possession of a proposal".
Peer comment(s):

neutral Deborah do Carmo : is not just before is "as at" and therefore is up to and including
3 mins
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7 mins

It is before the date of/at the threshhold of termination.

The use of the past perfect tense implies this.
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