Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Even as it is

English answer:

Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless

Added to glossary by Jenni Lukac (X)
Sep 1, 2011 20:01
12 yrs ago
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English term

Even as it is

English Other Esoteric practices
Hello everyone,

I am in the confidence of some of the masters of
this wondrous power, and have witnessed many startling
exhibitions of thought transference, but as the promise of
secrecy was exacted from me by these friends, my lips are of
course sealed. Outside of these considerations, it would be of
very doubtful wisdom to spread, broadcast, information of this
nature, which would place within the means of unscrupulous
persons the power to work their wills upon their fellow men.
***Even as it is***, fragments of this occult knowledge have leaked
out and have been misused

Does "even as it is" mean however (implying "although I didn't do that, i.e. I did not reveal those secrets")?
Or does it mean something like "even in the situation as it is now (implying "even in the current state of affairs")"

Thank you.
Change log

Sep 12, 2011 12:22: Jenni Lukac (X) Created KOG entry

Responses

+5
2 mins
Selected

Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless

I hope these synonyms help!
Peer comment(s):

agree Sheila Wilson : "even in the situation as it is now", as suggested by the Asker
1 min
Thanks, Sheila. This text could use a red pencil (or an eraser). "Notwithstanding" would be another way of putting it.
agree Allison Wright (X) : Notwithstanding (+ "the above", or "the element of secrecy"). I agree with your red pencil idea, Jenni. "Nevertheless" would probably be the best one-word solution in this rather sloppily written text.
13 mins
Cheers and thanks, Allison. I've got a similar one on my desk right now!
agree Jack Doughty
1 hr
Cheers and thanks, Jack.
agree amarpaul : Alison's "Nevertheless" sounds good. Do all these sloppy writers get paid by the word, do you think?
12 hrs
Thanks, amarpaul. I often wonder!
agree Phong Le
1 day 4 hrs
Thanks very much Phong. Have a good weekend.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks to everyone. Thank you, Jenni. "
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4 mins

even in the situation as it is now

Your second suggestion is how I understand the phrase in this context.

The phrase could be replaced in the original, with little change of meaning, by the word "already".
Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : I agree, and I think what it implies is "even though strenuous efforts have been made to keep it secret". In other words, I have not revealed it, but others, who were presumably sworn to secrecy too, have done so.
43 mins
Yes, I agree that the phrase implies all this. Thanks!
agree DLyons
4 hrs
Thanks, DL!
agree Luciane Shanahan
5 hrs
Obrigado, Luciane!!
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7 mins

even though I did not as I promised not to

It does mean pretty much as you said, "however (implying "although I didn't do that, i.e. I did not reveal those secrets")?

Or it could also be restated, even though I kept the promise of secrecy some fragements of this occult knowledge have leaked out.

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