Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
foutendiscussie
English translation:
error discussion, error analysis
Added to glossary by
Jack den Haan
Apr 7, 2006 08:42
18 yrs ago
Dutch term
Med.Translator/Biochemist/Microbiologist
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands) 
Works in: English to Dutch
foutendiscussie
Dutch to English
Science
Science (general)
In een foutendiscussie laat je zien hoe een meetfout doorwerkt in het eindresultaat. Ik kan niet op een engelse term hiervoor komen... Welke term wordt hiervoor gebruikt?
TIA
TIA
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | error discussion |
Jack den Haan
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| 4 +3 | error analysis |
Dave Calderhead
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Change log
Apr 7, 2006 08:45: Erik Boers changed "Language pair" from "English to Dutch" to "Dutch to English"
Proposed translations
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6 mins
Jack den Haan
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
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English
Netherlands
Qualified engineer, translator & teacher
Native in: Dutch 
, English (Variants: UK, US)
Works in: Dutch to English, English to Dutch
Related KudoZ points
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16
Selected
error discussion
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-04-07 08:49:15 GMT)
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Of: discussion of errors
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Note added at 11 hrs (2006-04-07 20:09:42 GMT)
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@Dave: In my opinion, error analysis is a term that usually used in the sense of quantitative assessment of accuracy of numerical procedures, as in your third reference. As Harry suggests, this involves mathematical caluclation. In physical measurements, I would say that 'error discussion' is a more appropriate term.
@Kenneth: A discussion does not necessarily involve multiple parties (at least not parties actively participating in the discussion), neither does it necessarily have an interactive nature. The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines 'discussion' in one sense as: "an examination by argument, written or spoken".
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-04-07 08:49:15 GMT)
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Of: discussion of errors
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Note added at 11 hrs (2006-04-07 20:09:42 GMT)
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@Dave: In my opinion, error analysis is a term that usually used in the sense of quantitative assessment of accuracy of numerical procedures, as in your third reference. As Harry suggests, this involves mathematical caluclation. In physical measurements, I would say that 'error discussion' is a more appropriate term.
@Kenneth: A discussion does not necessarily involve multiple parties (at least not parties actively participating in the discussion), neither does it necessarily have an interactive nature. The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines 'discussion' in one sense as: "an examination by argument, written or spoken".
Peer comment(s):
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Andre de Vries
: on further investigation, I think "error discussion" is correct in this context. [previous opinion a discussion of problems - a review of problems
45 mins
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Thanks Andre. PS: I think this is not a meeting, by the way, but a section title in a scientific paper, for example.
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Johan Venter
: With Andre
53 mins
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Thanks Johan.
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Dave Calderhead
: I think analysis is more usual - Good afternoon Jack
2 hrs
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Hi Dave! You could be quite right, although I think 'analysis' is a rather presumptuous term for most experimental/physical contexts not involving mathematical error calculations.
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Antoinette Verburg
: Zie noot bij Dave. http://www.tesd.k12.pa.us/stoga/dept/science/students/chemst...
3 hrs
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Bedankt Antoinette.
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Harry Borsje
: as analysis implies mathematical calculation => http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/glossary.htm
3 hrs
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Bedankt Harry. Ben het weer eens glooiend met jou eens :-) PS: Mooie referentie!
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Hasselt
4 hrs
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Bedankt Hasselt.
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FionaDV (X)
1 day 2 hrs
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Bedankt Fiona.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Bedankt Jack, en alle anderen, voor jullie nuttige bijdragen en refs!"
+3
2 hrs
Dave Calderhead
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in English
Netherlands
Reliable translations, reasonable rates
Native in: English
Works in: Dutch to English, English
error analysis
because the discussion is on paper, often referred to as ananalysis
see refs below:
Error AnalysisError Analysis. Rather than using broad indicators as guides to score ... The technique of error analysis tries to establish how seriously errors affect the ...
clwww.essex.ac.uk/MTbook/HTML/node80.html
14.8. Error AnalysisChapter 14. The Hotplug System / 14.8. Error Analysis. Prev · 14.7. Coldplug · Chapter 15. Dynamic Device Nodes with udev · Next. 14.8. Error Analysis ...
www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/ doc/suse/sles9/adminguide-sles9/ch14s08.html
Convergence of Fixed-Point Iteration, Error AnalysisConvergence of Fixed-Point Iteration, Error Analysis.
www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/ ~alan/MT2003/Numerical/node11.html
see refs below:
Error AnalysisError Analysis. Rather than using broad indicators as guides to score ... The technique of error analysis tries to establish how seriously errors affect the ...
clwww.essex.ac.uk/MTbook/HTML/node80.html
14.8. Error AnalysisChapter 14. The Hotplug System / 14.8. Error Analysis. Prev · 14.7. Coldplug · Chapter 15. Dynamic Device Nodes with udev · Next. 14.8. Error Analysis ...
www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/ doc/suse/sles9/adminguide-sles9/ch14s08.html
Convergence of Fixed-Point Iteration, Error AnalysisConvergence of Fixed-Point Iteration, Error Analysis.
www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/ ~alan/MT2003/Numerical/node11.html
Note from asker:
| Thanks Dave, and all others, for your contributions. I finally decided to use 'discussion', although I am convinced 'analysis would be appropriate as well. |
Peer comment(s):
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Ken Cox
: my take as well, aside from the argument that a discussion involves multiple parties//I meant it the other way around: a discussion is interactive, an analysis is not (but 'discussion' is often used in English when what is actually meant is a description)
11 mins
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Thanks, Kenneth (:-{)> i don't think analysis excludes more than one or two people discussing the errors, and in a scientific, engineering or financial paper it would certainly be appropriate, wouldn't you agree?
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Antoinette Verburg
: Op zich natuurlijk prima, maar juist omdat ‘foutendiscussie’ ook in het NL veel minder gebruikelijk is dan ‘foutenanalyse’ (zeker 'op papier') zou ik hier, met het oog op de juiste connotatie, ook in het EN voor een minder gebruikelijke term kieze
47 mins
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Thanks Antoinnette, I recognise your point, but I am so used to seeing this type of language abuse by accountants, I thought I'd throw it in for Titia's consideration. Have a good weekend (:-{)>
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Tina Vonhof (X)
: I think any amount of discussion would be be nicely covered by 'error analysis'. I would not choose a less common term simply because the source text does - isn't it our task to make the text understandable in the targe language?
5 hrs
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Thanks, Tina (:-{)> you're quite right - and my thanks keep getting wiped away by Proz!
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Meturgan
22 hrs
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Thanks (:-{)> see end of note to Tina above
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