Mar 29, 2005 11:40
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term
De afspraken en agendering (van X in Y hebben gevolgen voor Z)
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It’s defeating me how to get this phrase into the sentence below, so I'd welcome any suggestions. Context is measures to tackle domestic violence.
Sinds de VN-Wereldvrouwenconferentie in Beijing in 1995 en de Speciale Zitting “Vijf jaar na Beijing” van de Algemene Vergadering van de VN (SAVVN) in 2000 is de wisselwerking tussen nationaal en internationaal beleid aanzienlijk versterkt. **De afspraken en agendering** van het voorkomen en bestrijden van geweld in gremia als de Verenigde Naties (VN), de Europese Unie (EU), de Raad van Europa, de Internationale Arbeidsorganisatie (ILO) en de Organisatie voor Veiligheid en Samenwerking in Europa (OVSE) hebben gevolgen voor het nationale beleid. Anderzijds brengt het kabinet inzichten, ervaringen en goede voorbeelden uit het nationale emancipatiebeleid in bij deze gremia.
Sinds de VN-Wereldvrouwenconferentie in Beijing in 1995 en de Speciale Zitting “Vijf jaar na Beijing” van de Algemene Vergadering van de VN (SAVVN) in 2000 is de wisselwerking tussen nationaal en internationaal beleid aanzienlijk versterkt. **De afspraken en agendering** van het voorkomen en bestrijden van geweld in gremia als de Verenigde Naties (VN), de Europese Unie (EU), de Raad van Europa, de Internationale Arbeidsorganisatie (ILO) en de Organisatie voor Veiligheid en Samenwerking in Europa (OVSE) hebben gevolgen voor het nationale beleid. Anderzijds brengt het kabinet inzichten, ervaringen en goede voorbeelden uit het nationale emancipatiebeleid in bij deze gremia.
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It seems to me that the problem is not so much the translation as formulating a satisfactory sentence in English. English speakers generally like to keep the verb fairly close to the subject, and in any case doing so promotes ease of understanding. I'd suggest:
(On the one hand), national policy on domestic violence is influenced by agreements and discussions regarding this topic in bodies such as the...'
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Note added at 8 hrs 25 mins (2005-03-29 20:05:55 GMT)
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Hmmm, that should be more like \'agreements and discussions regarding preventing and combatting domestic violence in bodies such as...\' Unfortunately, that has the same ambiguity as the original formulation (\'domestic violence in bodies such as...\' is not the intended meaning). So: \'National policy on preventing and combatting domestic violence is influenced by agreements and discussions regarding this topic...\' No matter how you cut it, it\'s not a pretty sentence...
(On the one hand), national policy on domestic violence is influenced by agreements and discussions regarding this topic in bodies such as the...'
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Note added at 8 hrs 25 mins (2005-03-29 20:05:55 GMT)
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Hmmm, that should be more like \'agreements and discussions regarding preventing and combatting domestic violence in bodies such as...\' Unfortunately, that has the same ambiguity as the original formulation (\'domestic violence in bodies such as...\' is not the intended meaning). So: \'National policy on preventing and combatting domestic violence is influenced by agreements and discussions regarding this topic...\' No matter how you cut it, it\'s not a pretty sentence...
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Comment: "Yes, this was precisely my problem with this sentence. Crying out for paraphrasing. I was thinking along the lines of “tabled” for agendering (The fact that violence is tabled in bodies such as …., and that agreements are made in these fora to prevent and combat it, has consequences for national policies) but it was still a convoluted rendering. Kenneth’s last suggestion sounds a bit more natural. And we have to assume that if an item is put on the agenda it will be discussed! Thanks, everyone."
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The agreements, and having put (X) on the agenda (in Y hebben gevolgen voor Z)
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(Domestic violence) being raised as an issue and any agreements made...
... to prevent and fight it in ....
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In my view, the sentence needs to be restructured; a literal translation would not work and may be too convoluted as it followed by the list of bodies. I deviate from the original by adding 'domestic' to 'violence' which is required to make it more specific here.
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In my view, the sentence needs to be restructured; a literal translation would not work and may be too convoluted as it followed by the list of bodies. I deviate from the original by adding 'domestic' to 'violence' which is required to make it more specific here.
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resolutions and agenda for action
"Resolutions and agenda for action" could be a proper translation
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Note added at 40 mins (2005-03-29 12:20:56 GMT)
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See for example this text:
Although the Conventions resolutions and Agenda for Action are not elaborated in the sort of format that will be required as a guideline for future democratic policy-making, the initiative has not been forgotten.
http://www.iss.co.za/pubs/Monographs/No87/Chap4.htm
That would seem to fit the picture of a global conference under the auspices of the United Nations...
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Note added at 1 hr 33 mins (2005-03-29 13:13:35 GMT)
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Entire sentence:
\"When it comes to preventing and combating violence [or domestic violence, if you like], resolutions and the agenda for action, as agreed upon by such international bodies as [...], will influence national policies\".
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Note added at 40 mins (2005-03-29 12:20:56 GMT)
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See for example this text:
Although the Conventions resolutions and Agenda for Action are not elaborated in the sort of format that will be required as a guideline for future democratic policy-making, the initiative has not been forgotten.
http://www.iss.co.za/pubs/Monographs/No87/Chap4.htm
That would seem to fit the picture of a global conference under the auspices of the United Nations...
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Note added at 1 hr 33 mins (2005-03-29 13:13:35 GMT)
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Entire sentence:
\"When it comes to preventing and combating violence [or domestic violence, if you like], resolutions and the agenda for action, as agreed upon by such international bodies as [...], will influence national policies\".
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