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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

Wafelijzerpolitiek

English translation:

waffle iron politics

Added to glossary by Williamson
May 28, 2010 12:27
13 yrs ago
Dutch term

Wafelijzerpolitiek

Dutch to English Other Idioms / Maxims / Sayings Politics
Wafelijzerpolitiek was een budgetteringsmethode in België tot ongeveer 1988 voor het toewijzen van gelden voor grote projecten. Om geen van beide groepen (de Walen en de Vlamingen) aan weerszijden van de taalgrens te kort te komen werd het geld van de openbare werken in een 50-50 verhouding verdeeld.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 waffle iron politics
References
waffle iron in English ...... it's 100% Belgian concept (bye-bye Van Dale)

Discussion

Erik Boers Jun 8, 2010:
Van Dale I wrote an e-mail to Van Dale about their ridiculous waffling (politics) suggestion. This is the answer I received:

"De huidige vertaling is inderdaad niet goed bruikbaar. Beter is om (letterlijk vertaald) "waffle iron politics" te gebruiken, of om een omschrijvende vertaling te geven, bijvoorbeeld "politics of equal budget allocation".
In een volgende editie van het woordenboek zal de vertaling worden aangepast."
writeaway May 30, 2010:
Oh for heaven's sake! That is really amazing. So many serious problems in Wallonia and so much money for nothing!
Williamson (asker) May 30, 2010:
Deepening of the port of Antwerp.
writeaway May 29, 2010:
thanks- what was the Flemish counterpart that made them think they had to build it?
Williamson (asker) May 29, 2010:
It is the giant boat lift of Strepy-Thieu at a cost of billions. Only one part works and its construction was actually not necessary. Now it is also used by stunt divers of Red Bull.
writeaway May 28, 2010:
question for Asker what is the big water-lift project in Wallonie (near Feluy I think) that is never used??
philgoddard May 28, 2010:
Wow! They must have written that entry at 4:59 on a Friday afternoon.
Barend van Zadelhoff May 28, 2010:
van Dale this is what van Dale offers: waffling (politics)

Proposed translations

+2
2 hrs
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waffle iron politics

sort of a positive tit for tat. a road here, a road there. a bridge here, a bridge there........


Belgium in crisis, European model in Danger - Page 10 - U.S ...
15 posts - 7 authors - Last post: 8 Oct 2007
Then you had the 'wafelijzerpolitiek' (waffle iron-politics): for every Belgian Franc that was invested in Flanders, one Belgian Franc had ...
www.uspoliticsonline.com › ... › Political Arenas › International Politics

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From Armed Peace to Permanent Crisis
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as 'waffle-iron politics', because as we all know a waffle-iron makes exactly the same impression on both sides of the dough. If the Flemings needed money ...
soc.kuleuven.be/pol/docs/2009/2009_PeacetoCrisis-TLC.pdf


Hey! Belgians! - Page 2 - Apolyton Civilization Site Forums
30 posts - 8 authors - Last post: 18 May 2003
Actually, "waffle iron politics" basically meant that each time Flanders got something, Walloon had to be given something in return in order ...
apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86427&page=2 -

What Bugs You About Your Country? — Non Aviation Forum ...
-Waffle-iron politics, i.e. when the Flemish get some federal money for an important project, e.g. for Antwerp Harbor, the Walloons get the same amount of ...
www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/non_aviation/read.../2825...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-05-28 16:09:07 GMT)
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Politique

Wafelijzerpolitiek (littéralement politique du fer à gaufre) est le nom donné par les néerlandophones au système belge de compensations instauré dans les années 1988 pour la répartition des fonds entre les deux grandes régions du pays, la Région flamande et la Région wallonne. Un exemple en est le soutien à la firme wallonne Sonaca en compensation aux 3 milliards et demi injectés par le gouvernement dans la banque flamande KBC[9].
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moule_à_gaufres#Politique
Peer comment(s):
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : in the asker's text it could be put in qoutation marks, of course
39 mins
actually the Dutch should be kept too. it's more of a Flemish expression. Even though the French can use politique du gaufrier, they tend to keep the Dutch too.
agree Chris Hopley : deliciously Belgian!
3 days 20 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "quid pro quo could also be used, but given that it is a 100 % Belgian concept, your translation suits best."

Reference comments

57 mins
Reference:

waffle iron in English ...... it's 100% Belgian concept (bye-bye Van Dale)

Belgium in crisis, European model in Danger - Page 10 - U.S ...
15 posts - 7 authors - Last post: 8 Oct 2007
Then you had the 'wafelijzerpolitiek' (waffle iron-politics): for every Belgian Franc that was invested in Flanders, one Belgian Franc had ...
www.uspoliticsonline.com › ... › Political Arenas › International Politics

[PDF]
From Armed Peace to Permanent Crisis
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
as 'waffle-iron politics', because as we all know a waffle-iron makes exactly the same impression on both sides of the dough. If the Flemings needed money ...
soc.kuleuven.be/pol/docs/2009/2009_PeacetoCrisis-TLC.pdf


Hey! Belgians! - Page 2 - Apolyton Civilization Site Forums
30 posts - 8 authors - Last post: 18 May 2003
Actually, "waffle iron politics" basically meant that each time Flanders got something, Walloon had to be given something in return in order ...
apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86427&page=2 -

What Bugs You About Your Country? — Non Aviation Forum ...
-Waffle-iron politics, i.e. when the Flemish get some federal money for an important project, e.g. for Antwerp Harbor, the Walloons get the same amount of ...
www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/non_aviation/read.../2825...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-05-28 16:08:37 GMT)
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Politique [modifier]

Wafelijzerpolitiek (littéralement politique du fer à gaufre) est le nom donné par les néerlandophones au système belge de compensations instauré dans les années 1988 pour la répartition des fonds entre les deux grandes régions du pays, la Région flamande et la Région wallonne. Un exemple en est le soutien à la firme wallonne Sonaca en compensation aux 3 milliards et demi injectés par le gouvernement dans la banque flamande KBC[9].
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moule_à_gaufres#Politique
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Carolyn Gille : yup! and here too: http://books.google.com/books?id=jvdkg7gB0kQC&pg=PA264&lpg=P...
36 mins
agree philgoddard
41 mins
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : you could enter it as an answer as well as the concept is explained in the following sentences // yes, I would even like it, it's an elegant solution
1 hr
I've lost the 'answer' reflex but I guess it could entered as an answer /ok-I've posted it as an answer
agree Halyna Smakal
3 hrs
agree Verginia Ophof
3 hrs
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