Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
afritsbaar(heid)
English translation:
separability/detachability
Added to glossary by
Johan Venter
Oct 5, 2009 09:40
14 yrs ago
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Dutch term
Czech Republic
afritsbaar(heid)
Dutch to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Het eenduidig gegevenseigenaarschap van gegevens vereenvoudigt de afritsbaarheid van de Bedrijfsfuncties.
This is a document concerning pricing systems. Gegevens in this case is data.
I was thinking along the lines of accessibility or openness of the business functions. Any better suggestions?
TIA
This is a document concerning pricing systems. Gegevens in this case is data.
I was thinking along the lines of accessibility or openness of the business functions. Any better suggestions?
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +4 | separability |
Textpertise
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| 3 +1 | detachability |
Max Nuijens
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| 3 | isolation |
Kitty Brussaard
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| 3 -1 | execution of business management |
Verginia Ophof
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Proposed translations
+4
40 mins
Textpertise
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Highest WWA rating in Europe for NL-EN
Native in: English 
Works in: Dutch to English, Hebrew to English
Related KudoZ points
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28
Selected
separability
I think there is a typo in your original and it should be afristbaarheid. Afristen means to strip off.
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Note added at 43 mins (2009-10-05 10:24:12 GMT)
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Alternatively it could indeed be afritsbaar - with a meaning of unzippability (play on the word "rits"). As the two meanings are similar the implication would mean that keeping the ownership of the data straightforward would simplify the separation or "hiving off" of the business functions. Hope this makes sense in your context.
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Note added at 1 day7 mins (2009-10-06 09:47:45 GMT)
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Afristen, in its agricultural sense, means stripping off - as in stripping off a cluster of fruit from the tree. Probably originally assimilated from some form of German like afrissen. The stripping of the fruit does not damage the main tree, so Max's comment that a separation can take place without disrupting/tearing the original tissue too much (in other words, the company functions or aspects can be detached without much effort or harm to the company) would apply to this meaning as well. For what it's worth, the other half of Textpertise (i.e. the native Dutchman) had also never heard of the term and I would not have heard of it either, had I not remembered it from a fairly technical agricultural translation I did years ago where I queried it with the client and felt a bit foolish afterwards ;-)
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Note added at 43 mins (2009-10-05 10:24:12 GMT)
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Alternatively it could indeed be afritsbaar - with a meaning of unzippability (play on the word "rits"). As the two meanings are similar the implication would mean that keeping the ownership of the data straightforward would simplify the separation or "hiving off" of the business functions. Hope this makes sense in your context.
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Note added at 1 day7 mins (2009-10-06 09:47:45 GMT)
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Afristen, in its agricultural sense, means stripping off - as in stripping off a cluster of fruit from the tree. Probably originally assimilated from some form of German like afrissen. The stripping of the fruit does not damage the main tree, so Max's comment that a separation can take place without disrupting/tearing the original tissue too much (in other words, the company functions or aspects can be detached without much effort or harm to the company) would apply to this meaning as well. For what it's worth, the other half of Textpertise (i.e. the native Dutchman) had also never heard of the term and I would not have heard of it either, had I not remembered it from a fairly technical agricultural translation I did years ago where I queried it with the client and felt a bit foolish afterwards ;-)
Peer comment(s):
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Ron Willems
: makes sense - although I don't think it's a typo. I have never in my life heard of "afristen"... "afritsen" is commonly in use for parts of clothing (e.g. trouser legs) that can be removed after opening a zipper.
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Thanks Ron - Afristen is both in Kluwer and Grote Van Dale. Usually used of stripping off fruit in agricultural context but could apply here. Afritsen is also in GvD but has military meaning which I can't relate to this context so your note appreciated.
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Kitty Brussaard
: Also with Ron.
23 hrs
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Thanks, Kitty.
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sindy cremer
: And with Ron.
1 day 1 hr
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Thanks, Sindy
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Fresh Phrases
: Both make sense, and detachability would as well. All fairly synonymous.
2 days 1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for all the helpful suggestions. The client confirmed separability"
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5 hrs
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
Native in English
Specializes in field
Belize
Near Native Proficiency in Source langua
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Dutch to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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25
execution of business management
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Peer comment(s):
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Kitty Brussaard
: I don't see how 'afritsbaarheid' relates to this ... / Sorry, but this really doesn't make sense to a native speaker. 'Afritsbaarheid' is derived from the verb 'afritsen' (i.e. to unzip). This is what any native speaker of Dutch immediately will think of.
7 hrs
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afrit (N) is an exit/outlet and afritsbaarheid the adj
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9 hrs
Max Nuijens
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Netherlands
Energy & Environment, MSc
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands)
Works in: English to Dutch
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12
detachability
Definitely a playful application of the notion of "unzippability" which usually refers to clothes. To detach is to unfasten, to disengage something that was never a homogeneous mass to begin with, but always had seams along which a cut could be made. And something that is detached can relatively easy be attached again. It seems that the source stresses the idea that a separation can take place without disrupting/tearing the original tissue too much. In other words, the company functions or aspects can be detached without much effort or harm to the company.
12 hrs
Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Specializes in field
Netherlands
Business Language Solutions
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands)
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English, Dutch
Related KudoZ points
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84
Dutch term (edited):
afritsbaarheid
isolation
'Afritsen' indeed basically refers to separating a part from the whole. In this specific context, I think you could also use 'isolation' as in '(...) simplifies the isolation of the separate business functions' (i.e. from the whole).
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