Frank Poppelaars (asker) Dec 19, 2011:

Phil, Yes. In fact, I've already had to submit the translation earlier today and used your translation, so thanks :).

philgoddard Dec 19, 2011:

OK, thanks, got it now. So Alexander Schleber's theory that they are displayed on the website but not identified by name is incorrect?

Frank Poppelaars (asker) Dec 19, 2011:

Phil, "wij zullen in overleg met u, het schip wel aanbieden aan potentiële kopers die zich bij ons melden."

Sorry, not the web-hosting company, but the company that owns the website. Certain buyers will express an interest in a certain type of vessel, and the company may have such a vessel available that is not publicly visible on the website, because its owners do not want to make public that they are selling it.

I hope this is a bit clearer.

philgoddard Dec 19, 2011:

This still makes no sense to me. Why would they present it to the company hosting the website, but not show it on the website?

Frank Poppelaars (asker) Dec 19, 2011:

Phil, I see your point. It seems I wasn't very clear at first, in my question. The vessels are not actually placed ON the website, but rather presented to the company hosting the website. The extra context I provided in the discussion is correct.

philgoddard Dec 18, 2011:

Frank Your question and your discussion entry contradict each other. One says they are placed on a website; the other says they are not. Which is correct?

Alexander Schleber (X) Dec 18, 2011:

Dear Phil, I have read the context and it is clear that the ships are "geplaatst" on the website. It's probably just a listing of ship types and tonnages, to which potential suppliers can react. So "unadvertised sale" and "unlisted sale" are wrong IMO. The only "long" workaround I can think of is "Summary list of items for sale".

Machteld/Johan Schrameijer/Westenburg Dec 17, 2011:

The reason I googeled advertised sale is because it does not sound right. It turns out there is not one example where it does not mean sold at a discount. That is not good here.

Christine Gardner Dec 16, 2011:

Phil Yes it just disappeared, began to wonder if I'd managed to delete it myself!

philgoddard Dec 16, 2011:

Christine Gardner Thanks for agreeing with my answer, but I deleted it by mistake. I've reposted it now ;-)

philgoddard Dec 16, 2011:

Thank you. That's much more helpful.

Frank Poppelaars (asker) Dec 16, 2011:

Some more context "U kunt uiteraard uw schip ook in de “stille verkoop” zetten. Het schip zal dan niet op onze website zichtbaar zijn, maar wij zullen in overleg met u, het schip wel aanbieden aan potentiële kopers die zich bij ons melden."

De term wordt zover ik weet meer gebruikt bij de verkoop van woningen:

"Wat is “stille verkoop”?
Als u uw woning wilt verkopen kunt u kiezen voor een zogenaamde "stille verkoop". Dit houdt in dat er geen tuinbord of raambiljet komt en er niet met de woning wordt geadverteerd. Alleen via het kantoor of onze makelaar worden potentiële kopers op de hoogte gebracht. De verkoop van uw pand wordt op deze manier niet aan de grote klok gehangen. Wel dient u er rekening mee te houden dat dit veelal niet het resultaat geeft dat u ervan verwacht had."

philgoddard Dec 16, 2011:

You could help us by (a) giving the full context and (b) telling us in Dutch what it means, as you presumably know but just don't know how to say it in English.